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Any naturapaths here? - 11/3/2008 10:58:02 PM
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prolifepj
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HI!
I'm a reflexologist and LOVE to work with herbs/nutrients to help folks and also LOVE to work with essential oils in reflexology. I'm just curious to see what others do and are interested in. Don't do it professionally anymore, just more for friends/family and random total strangers that heard about it somewhere.
Anyone?
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RE: Any naturapaths here? - 11/4/2008 11:05:31 AM
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I wouldn't consider myself a "naturapath," but the doctor's pharmacy is the last place I'd turn to, if I were ill (and I can't tell you the last time that happened. An ounce of prevention...).
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RE: Any naturapaths here? - 11/4/2008 11:26:48 AM
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Here in the UK, a naturopath is a word used to describe a professionally trained practitioner of naturopathic medicine.
So, no, I am not a naturopath (I wish I was, for then I could save myself a lot of money!), but I am into naturopathic medicine.
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RE: Any naturapaths here? - 11/4/2008 4:50:10 PM
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Hello everyone,
I am not a naturopath obviously, but I am into alternative medicine, especially herbal remedies and essential oils. I do know that not all herbal remedies are safe, and I wouldn't take the risk for doing herbs for life threatening illnesses, but they can be really helpful especially for acute conditions such as the cold, flu, cough, diarrhea etc.
There are certain conditions that can't be helped with herbs. But for those that can, herbs are really great. Of course we shouldn't be using the white pill all the time.
Soli Deo Gloria,
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RE: Any naturapaths here? - 11/4/2008 6:55:09 PM
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Hmmm, perhaps I should have worded the thread title differently - for those interested in natropathic everything. Do any of you work with people other than friends/family to try helping in their ailments? Have you found them to be open to trying alternatives to pharm meds?
What are some things that you have tried that works?
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RE: Any naturapaths here? - 11/5/2008 10:32:58 AM
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Do any of you work with people other than friends/family to try helping in their ailments?
I've made recommendations on this board and to co-workers.
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Have you found them to be open to trying alternatives to pharm meds?
Of course. Most of my friends firmly believe in it, I've never had to "persuade" anyone.
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What are some things that you have tried that works?
That's a long list.
Throat Coat and Breathe Deep teas are two favourites I recommend.
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RE: Any naturapaths here? - 11/6/2008 3:51:05 PM
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My husband and I see a natural health practitioner and we usually try some type of natural remedy for minor ailments first. My husband had severe acid reflux and took cayanne pepper pills for several weeks and it went away. The perscription drugs did nothing to help him, they just "masked" the issue. We also take ginger, mint or a shot of vinegar for upset tummies and that works really well. We buy honey from local farms to boost our immunity to allergens. We haven't really tried essential oils for anything but would be interested in hearing more about them. I find that people are interested but a bit skeptical of natural remedies.
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RE: Any naturapaths here? - 11/6/2008 4:32:35 PM
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My husband and I see a natural health practitioner and we usually try some type of natural remedy for minor ailments first. My husband had severe acid reflux and took cayanne pepper pills for several weeks and it went away. The perscription drugs did nothing to help him, they just "masked" the issue. We also take ginger, mint or a shot of vinegar for upset tummies and that works really well. We buy honey from local farms to boost our immunity to allergens. We haven't really tried essential oils for anything but would be interested in hearing more about them. I find that people are interested but a bit skeptical of natural remedies.
Sometimes there's a reason to be skeptical. Like lets say if you read a Google Ad that claimed this herbal remedy would cure depression in 3 days, wouldn't you be skeptical? I sure would! But I do believe in natural remedies especially for minor ailments because you don't have to pop the pill all the time. And you shouldn't pop pills all the time.
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RE: Any naturapaths here? - 11/6/2008 6:31:43 PM
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Awesome! Yes, these days we do tend to run towards the pills - but there's so much more that is better for us out there if we only had a clue!!!
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RE: Any naturapaths here? - 11/6/2008 7:14:48 PM
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Awesome! Yes, these days we do tend to run towards the pills - but there's so much more that is better for us out there if we only had a clue!!!
Hello prolifepj,
I wouldn't get too emotional. I do believe in herbal remedies for things that are easily treatable but for bigger ailments I believe you should make a doctor appointment. Sometimes people tend to run to the herbal stuff all the time that may not help them. Let's say there's an epileptic and he wants to take an herbal alternative instead of prescriptions. I would say stick with your medicine. Becuase there is no scientific evidence yet that proves certain herbs can treat epilepsy. But there is hope. In 2005 they were starting to do studies on what herbs could possible help with epilepsy. They were definately gearing toward Chinese herbal medicine and Japanese herbal medicine.
So there may be hope. But this is one example of how we shouldn't jump the bandwagon for herbs either. There should be a balance. I am a believer in complimentary medicine. Complimentary medicine is you incorporate both herbs and prescriptions into your treatment plan depending on the condition. That is a much better approach.
Soli Deo Gloria,
Jessica
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RE: Any naturapaths here? - 11/6/2008 7:20:53 PM
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I completely agree on bringing a balance to it - we have to have common sense. I still think however that in general, we tend to run to the easiest/most familiar thing too quickly when there may be an equally effective, less dangerous alternative.
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RE: Any naturapaths here? - 11/6/2008 7:22:02 PM
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I tend to be a bit skeptical of some things naturapathic, but if they're known to be safe and effective, and cheap, then I'm all for it! I'm not one to buy a bottle of pills when a balanced, healthy diet will do the trick. I am open to trying herbal teas and home-grown herbs and that's something a friend and I are looking into now.
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RE: Any naturapaths here? - 11/6/2008 7:41:27 PM
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Hello prolifepj and Grace-N-Mercy,
I totally agree with both of you. Balance, balance, balance. But yes in American culture if someone has a flu, they tend to run toward the penicillin instead of a nice hot chicken and mushroom soup. And of course Orange juice. Good old Vitamin C.
Soli Deo Gloria,
Jessica
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RE: Any naturapaths here? - 11/10/2008 3:38:06 PM
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I wouldn't pay any attention to a Google ad, or any sort of advertisement.
My methods of treatment rely on sound research, personal experiences, and common sense.
Not words coming from somebody interested in my money.
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RE: Any naturapaths here? - 11/14/2008 1:36:04 PM
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I wouldn't pay any attention to a Google ad, or any sort of advertisement.
My methods of treatment rely on sound research, personal experiences, and common sense.
Not words coming from somebody interested in my money.
I agree. But there are some herbs that are scientifically proven to help with ailments. For myself, I am a big fan of green tea, and I know there have been thousands of scientific studies behind them. Green tea has such wide-ranging health benefits that I don't believe any other substance can claim. And green tea is 100% natural.
About other herbs, there have been some studies behind some of them. Like St Johns Wort and Depression. St Johns Wort has been scientifically proven to be just as effective as Prozac for relieving mild to moderate depression. And there is a better tolerance rate for St Johns. There are much fewer side effects than SSRI anti-depressants. St John's Wort is a safe alternative for mild to moderate patients. Germany prescribes this herb all the time for depressed patients.
Again, I wouldn't be too skeptical of all things natural. Remember, part of America's problem is going to the white pill all the time and that is why we are getting sicker and sicker. Of course there's gotta be common sense and balance, but taking an Advil for a fever instead of a hot red pepper soup just might be taking a toll on our health.
There are some cultures that eat hot red peppers all the time like Koreans. They are much better off than us Americans when it comes to cancer and heart disease.
Soli Deo Gloria,
Jessica
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RE: Any naturapaths here? - 11/14/2008 10:39:23 PM
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You're right - I've seen St John's Wort and good ole B-12 work wonders.
Red pepper soup? I'd like to hear more on that one especially since I eat Advil like candy!
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RE: Any naturapaths here? - 11/15/2008 6:47:48 AM
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I don't know much about naturopathy, but I'm very interested in learning about more about it!
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RE: Any naturapaths here? - 11/15/2008 1:14:53 PM
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You're right - I've seen St John's Wort and good ole B-12 work wonders.
Red pepper soup? I'd like to hear more on that one especially since I eat Advil like candy!
I have a book called the Green Pharmacy and they said that red pepper is a fair source of salicylates, which are also found in aspirin to reduce fever. But how I ate my red pepper is that I went to a Korean store and bought red pepper paste that had 2 peppers on it (meaning hot). And that was a couple days before I got my fever. I didn't know it was going to happen. Anyway, when I got my fever on Monday, I ate some of that soup I prepared a couple days before and my fever went down. I heard garlic is supposed to help with this too, but it isn't in my Green Pharmacy book. This guy who wrote it is an ethnobotanist (ethnobotany is the field that specializes in medicinal herbs) who worked with the USDA Research Station for most of his career and he is very reliable. He also helped with the 5-a-day program at the National Institutes of Health. So he is quite a good source. You can find The Green Pharmacy book at your local Barnes and Noble.
The book covers most acute conditions that affect many people. It is very good.
Soli Deo Gloria,
Jessica
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RE: Any naturapaths here? - 11/16/2008 9:34:24 PM
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I am SO gonna try that next time (God forbid) I get a fever. Don't have those often, as a matter of fact, probably haven't in a few years - yay!
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RE: Any naturapaths here? - 11/24/2008 9:15:10 PM
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Hey - anyone have some herbal remedies/supplements for asthma?
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RE: Any naturapaths here? - 11/25/2008 5:45:39 PM
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Hello prolife,
The question is, do you or someone you know have asthma?
If the answer is yes, I would take the advice of your doctor and take the pharmaceutical medicine. Asthma can be very life threatening, so that isn't something to play around with. But, as a supplementary therapy, here are some herbs to try:
Green tea does help with breathing, as it's potent antioxidant properties (the catechins) help with lung conditions such as lung cancer, pneumonia, MRSA in the respiratory tracts etc. It would make sense that it would help with asthma also. To get the best health benefits from green tea in general, you should drink at least 3 cups a day. But I would go over the minimum though. I drink 5 cups daily.
Other herbs that may be helpful for asthma are Ephedra (which inspired Sudafed), Anise, Licorice, Ginkgo Biloba (get a 50:1 extract, 50 pounds of leaves=one pound of extract), Tomatoes (and other citrus fruits and foods containing vitamin C), if you like hot foods, you could also try Japanese Wasabi, and vitamin B6 is good for asthma as well.
Like I said before, any herbs you use for asthma are to be suplementary treatments. They are not to be your first line of treatment. You should still get a prescription medicine for asthma, asthma is very life threatening.
I hope I helped.
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RE: Any naturapaths here? - 11/25/2008 6:02:17 PM
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GREAT info, thanks!
I am having to puff on my inhaler a bit more than usual - meds do not always cut it when the air pollution is bad. I have done the green tea thing before, but not so much. It should be easy for me to do that though - I drink coffee all day, so switching over should be easy. I use reflexology for asthma on other people, and they tell me it helps - on me, usually by the time I even think about it, all my energy is gone from working so hard to breathe. Thanks again for your advice - I'm going to try it all!
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RE: Any naturapaths here? - 11/26/2008 12:14:09 PM
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GREAT info, thanks!
I am having to puff on my inhaler a bit more than usual - meds do not always cut it when the air pollution is bad. I have done the green tea thing before, but not so much. It should be easy for me to do that though - I drink coffee all day, so switching over should be easy. I use reflexology for asthma on other people, and they tell me it helps - on me, usually by the time I even think about it, all my energy is gone from working so hard to breathe. Thanks again for your advice - I'm going to try it all!
I'm glad you're going to switch over to green tea from coffee. Coffee has too much caffeine, about 100mg a cup. Green tea has a lot less, about 25mg an 8oz cup and also has this amino acid called theanine in it, which is a natural tranquilizer that eases anxiety and stress and counteracts the caffeine. So you will get this relaxed but alert state. You'll be relaxed because of theanine, and you'll have the alert benefits of the caffeine without the jitteriness.
Green tea has potent antioxidants in it, especially the catechins, which have so many wide-ranging and powerful health benefits that no other substance can claim. It also has a lot of anti-asthma properties in it.
If you are going to try any of those other herbs, I would go with Ephedra and Ginkgo. Ginkgo has to be a 50:1 extract. 50 pounds of leaves=one pound of extract. If you go to Whole Foods you should be able to find it. I know licorice has anti-asthma properties in it, but you can only use it for a certain period of time, it is not a good long term treatment.
Of course add more tomatoes and foods with Vitamin C, as vitamin C helps with immune system function. And good old Vitamin B6 should also do you good as well.
Well I'm glad you're on a prescription, but sometimes taking herbal stuff to supplement your medicine isn't a bad idea, especially in your case. I hope you feel better.
Soli Deo Gloria,
Jessica
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RE: Any naturapaths here? - 11/26/2008 1:05:58 PM
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I agree. But there are some herbs that are scientifically proven to help with ailments. For myself, I am a big fan of green tea, and I know there have been thousands of scientific studies behind them. Green tea has such wide-ranging health benefits that I don't believe any other substance can claim. And green tea is 100% natural.
About other herbs, there have been some studies behind some of them. Like St Johns Wort and Depression. St Johns Wort has been scientifically proven to be just as effective as Prozac for relieving mild to moderate depression. And there is a better tolerance rate for St Johns. There are much fewer side effects than SSRI anti-depressants. St John's Wort is a safe alternative for mild to moderate patients. Germany prescribes this herb all the time for depressed patients.
While some of this stuff maybe true, in the U.S, often times the FDA outlaws the active ingredients in these herbs to make them ineffective. Or, they outlaw the effective variants, leaving the ineffective ones on the market. Then, when people try them and find them ineffective, they blame herbal medicine in general. I read a long time ago this is the case for St. Johns wort and it's also the case case for Ephedra. Another example of this is red yeast rice.
I do believe that herbal medicine, in general, is safer and more effective than Western biomedicine. However, there are two things that one needs to consider. Just like biomedicine, herbal medicine can be dangerous. I'm sure ancient Chinese doctors were very good at treating all kinds of things more safely and effectively than what modern medicine can do (and treating all kinds of things that modern medicine can't cure). Same is true with the Native Americans (ie: the Shamans) before the Europeans invaded and started introducing biomedicine. However, what we have to realize is that Ancient Chinese medicine required years and years of study. The same was true for Native American medicine (shamanism). It's not like one can just read a website and suddenly become an herbalist. These medicine men knew the various herb interactions and diet interactions and they knew the dangers involved and all the required ramifications to avoid those dangers (ie: the different variations of herbs and how to mix them, etc...) and they spent years studying this stuff (I believe it took 5 years of studying to become a Shaman, not sure, but most ancient medicine practice requires lots of studying). Of course, now with biomedicine, it makes things a lot more complicated (because no ancient medicine man/woman is going to know how these herbs interact with drugs, being that they didn't have drugs back then like we do now).
The second thing that we have to realize is that, while it is true that herbal medicine is probably safer and more effective than modern biomedicine, we also have to ensure that the we have legal freedom to be treated with herbal medicine if we want to (ie: by trained herbalists). When the FDA outlaws the active ingredient in red yeast rice, when they outlaw ingredients in all kinds of herbs, when they outlaw the most effective variants of an herb to treat various ailments, this is going to make herbal medicine seem less effective than it really is and people will then claim, "look, herbal medicine doesn't work." It does work, except not so well here in the U.S because all of the effective herbs, or variants, or active ingredients in the herbs, are illegal. The government could lie and claim that they are outlawing herbal medicine for the sake of protecting us, but if that were the case, they would outlaw cigarettes, a substance that has killed millions. They aren't interested in protecting us, they are interesting in reducing the competition for pharmaceutical corporations. While it is important for us to be familiar with herbal medicine (as educated as we can be), it is also just as important for us to ensure that we have the freedom to be treated with herbal medicine.
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RE: Any naturapaths here? - 12/21/2008 2:40:31 PM
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I am just getting into natural remedies. I have been reading about foods and their medicinal properties and trying to get to all whole foods in my kitchen. Herbs get confusing to me. Not so much the benefits and uses of an herb, but the optimal delivery system of the herb, kwim? The more I read, the less I trust a bottle of herbal supplements.
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