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RE: PROPHETS QUARTET - 8/18/2008 6:39:43 PM
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CzarofSGMR
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They've always had product tables for the artists on Friday and Saturday nights, Daniel.
Depending on the venue, there has not always been adequate space for outside vendors who are not on the GOGR program, so it's not quite the flea market atmosphere of some major events, but if you are on the program, you have product tables.
The artists don't normally set up tables for the Thursday night banquet due to the nature of the event. With very few exceptions, the artists singing Thursday night are also on the program Friday and/or Saturday and the attendees at the banquet are generally people who are there for the entire weekend.
In the unlikely event that an artist is only booked for Thursday night, they are allowed to sell product at the banquet.
Amen to all that!
Did we meet, Czar?
This is a great event. Of course it's much smaller than NQC...but it's large enough to be dynamic, but small enough to feel special. Tremendous contact for the fans who buy the VIP package and stay at the Host Hotel.
The events at the Hotel are terrific! This is an event like no other.
Fri-Sat evening concerts are in the civic center and open to the public.
Check out my article (Today's) at my blog link below for a general overview of our experience.
Yes we did, Paul. You have my business card.
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RE: PROPHETS QUARTET - 8/19/2008 5:20:11 AM
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Thanks Czar!
Yes I do, JC...thanks for your kindness to me...
BTW...I totally missed Eddie Crook receiving the
LIVING LEGEND AWARD, while at GOGR. Not surprising
that he did not tell us that was going to happen. He and I
had a long private lunch on Sat...not a word about it.
Which nite was that?
I need to blog about this.
pj
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RE: PROPHETS QUARTET - 8/19/2008 6:48:31 PM
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I doubt Mr. Crook knew in advance that he was receiving the award. Mr. Waller likes to surprise the living legends if he can pull it off.
Buddy Burton was also presented with a Living Legend Award.
These awards were presented after intermission at the Saturday night concert.
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RE: PROPHETS QUARTET - 8/19/2008 9:50:16 PM
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I doubt Mr. Crook knew in advance that he was receiving the award. Mr. Waller likes to surprise the living legends if he can pull it off.
Buddy Burton was also presented with a Living Legend Award.
These awards were presented after intermission at the Saturday night concert.
GREAT! I was selling Cd's and greeting fans at that time...will talk to Eddie about it. Thanks for the info...pj
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RE: PROPHETS QUARTET - 8/19/2008 10:10:46 PM
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When I think of great Prophets songs, these come to mind:
Worry Who I?
Neither Do I Condemn Thee
Nearer My God to Thee
What a Wonderful Day
Glory Glory Amen
If We Never Meet Again
Old Fashioned Meeting
I've Found a Hiding Place
Love Like the Sun (Isn't that on your CD?)
Oh When I Meet You
Why Should I Worry?
Sinner's Plea
If you ever need a copy of any of these, you know how to get in touch with me.
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RE: PROPHETS QUARTET - 8/20/2008 9:00:00 AM
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When I think of great Prophets songs, these come to mind:
Worry Who I?
Neither Do I Condemn Thee
Nearer My God to Thee
What a Wonderful Day
Glory Glory Amen
If We Never Meet Again
Old Fashioned Meeting
I've Found a Hiding Place
Love Like the Sun (Isn't that on your CD?) YES it is on our Cd.
Oh When I Meet You
Why Should I Worry?
Sinner's Plea
If you ever need a copy of any of these, you know how to get in touch with me.
Thanks for the insight. NOW.. you heard us sing. which of these do you think would work for today's PROPHETS?
Roy Pauley thinks we should do WORRY WHO I, in spite of my protests that my voice is not as light as Roy Mc's or Jay B (whichever one of them that recorded that). He thinks I can do my part. I'm not so sure. Eddie C thinks we should do OH WHEN I MEET YOU. He played me a great PLAINSMEN cut of that tune.
I have highlighted the songs I have in my library.
PJ
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RE: PROPHETS QUARTET - 8/22/2008 6:42:37 PM
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Nice song, but I never associated it with the Prophets . . . The Florida Boys did it a few years ago. I think of it as an Oak Ridge song . . .
However, since you asked about your set, I really thought the Pledge of Allegance thing was very cheezy. I don't like using patriotism as a way to get the audience to stand up.
I equate it with the words "Give Jesus a hand!" Jesus doesn't need a hand.
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RE: PROPHETS QUARTET - 8/22/2008 8:43:55 PM
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However, since you asked about your set, I really thought the Pledge of Allegance thing was very cheezy. I don't like using patriotism as a way to get the audience to stand up.
I equate it with the words "Give Jesus a hand!" Jesus doesn't need a hand.
I agree. A third thing some performers do to try to get audiences to stand that just doesn't come off that well to me is using songs that (in the lyrics) tell the audience to stand.
Songs that say to stand aren't inherently bad. But sometimes it seems just a little too obvious, the way they're staged.
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RE: PROPHETS QUARTET - 8/23/2008 5:30:19 AM
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Nice song, but I never associated it with the Prophets . . . The Florida Boys did it a few years ago. I think of it as an Oak Ridge song . . .
However, since you asked about your set, I really thought the Pledge of Allegance thing was very cheezy. I don't like using patriotism as a way to get the audience to stand up.
I equate it with the words "Give Jesus a hand!" Jesus doesn't need a hand.
We did not say The Pledge "to get the audience to stand"...they were already standing. We suspected that they probably would be.
Since we felt that there would probably be a Patriot or 2 in the audience.
Yes, they stood when the lyrics said, "Now it's time for all of us to stand and honor them"...anyone who did not stand then, probably stood when we broke into AMERICA THE BEAUTIFUL. At any rate, I had the liberty to lead in The Pledge, if I felt it was an appropriate moment. It was. And I did.
I don't consider public displays of patriotism to be "cheezy".
Frankly, I don't understand any American citizen who does! We introduced the song as an attempt by our group to honor the men and women who are serving, and have served our country. That is an
honorable intent. Suitable for public assemblies in our Nation.
By the way,We were not "using patriotism" for anything.
WE WERE BEING PATRIOTIC...because we ARE patriotic.
Should we have asked the audience to NOT express their patriotism?
The USA is at war.
Friends and family members of mine are in uniform, overseas...displaced from their families and all of our pleasure and ease. Was it "cheezy" to ask our safe and free citizenry to STAND in their honor?
Was it "cheezy" to do it with art?
If so, SO be it.
Sorry you thought it was "cheezy".
I thought it was good, great and grand!
GOD BLESS AMERICA!
Every child, and every youth that might have been in that hall (and I saw a few), needed to see their parents and grandparents ON THEIR FEET honoring all those who make it possible for all of us to enjoy great events like GOGR. When we consider their sacrifice, surely we can STAND for a few moments to pay tribute and express gratitude.
Also...I don't really undertsand the comparison to the words,
"Give Jesus a Hand!"
Jesus might not need a hand, but America certainly does...AND their are several hundred thousand people "in uniform" giving her a hand everyday...24/7.
To me, a better comparison might be to the timeless Hymn, STAND UP, STAND UP FOR JESUS. Might be "cheezy", but I stand up when we sing that hymn. Always have. As long as I am able, I Always will.
Surely Qtman and I are not the only people who think this way...and yes, this is kind of a sore spot with this old pastor.
PJ
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RE: PROPHETS QUARTET - 8/23/2008 7:01:07 AM
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My uncle was there that night and he is an Army veteran. It brought tears to my eyes to see him proudly standing with his hand held over his heart during that patriotic moment.
It was also nice to stand due to the fact that we had been sitting for several hours.
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RE: PROPHETS QUARTET - 8/23/2008 7:19:47 AM
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Yes, they stood when the lyrics said, "Now it's time for all of us to stand and honor them"
Funny, because that was what I mentioned in particular in my post. Audiences are often alert enough to stand when the song tells them to, but for some reason it bugs me a little.
I guess it's just one of the tricks of the trade. I should get used to it.
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RE: PROPHETS QUARTET - 8/23/2008 7:42:07 AM
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Nice song, but I never associated it with the Prophets . . . The Florida Boys did it a few years ago. I think of it as an Oak Ridge song . . .
However, since you asked about your set, I really thought the Pledge of Allegiance thing was very cheesy. I don't like using patriotism as a way to get the audience to stand up.
I equate it with the words "Give Jesus a hand!" Jesus doesn't need a hand.
We did not say The Pledge "to get the audience to stand"...they were already standing. We suspected that they probably would be.
Since we felt that there would probably be a Patriot or 2 in the audience.
Yes, they stood when the lyrics said, "Now it's time for all of us to stand and honor them"...anyone who did not stand then, probably stood when we broke into AMERICA THE BEAUTIFUL. At any rate, I had the liberty to lead in The Pledge, if I felt it was an appropriate moment. It was. And I did.
I don't consider public displays of patriotism to be "cheesy".
Frankly, I don't understand any American citizen who does! We introduced the song as an attempt by our group to honor the men and women who are serving, and have served our country. That is an
honorable intent. Suitable for public assemblies in our Nation.
By the way,We were not "using patriotism" for anything.
WE WERE BEING PATRIOTIC...because we ARE patriotic.
Should we have asked the audience to NOT express their patriotism?
The USA is at war.
Friends and family members of mine are in uniform, overseas...displaced from their families and all of our pleasure and ease. Was it "cheesy" to ask our safe and free citizenry to STAND in their honor?
Was it "cheesy" to do it with art?
If so, SO be it.
Sorry you thought it was "cheezy".
I thought it was good, great and grand!
GOD BLESS AMERICA!
Every child, and every youth that might have been in that hall (and I saw a few), needed to see their parents and grandparents ON THEIR FEET honoring all those who make it possible for all of us to enjoy great events like GOGR. When we consider their sacrifice, surely we can STAND for a few moments to pay tribute and express gratitude.
Also...I don't really undertsand the comparison to the words,
"Give Jesus a Hand!"
Jesus might not need a hand, but America certainly does...AND their are several hundred thousand people "in uniform" giving her a hand everyday...24/7.
To me, a better comparison might be to the timeless Hymn, STAND UP, STAND UP FOR JESUS. Might be "cheezy", but I stand up when we sing that hymn. Always have. As long as I am able, I Always will.
Surely Qtman and I are not the only people who think this way...and yes, this is kind of a sore spot with this old pastor.
PJ
All I can say is Amen Preach it brother. I doubt you will find a Veteran anywhere in this country that would agree saying the pledge of allegiance is cheezy. I along with thousands of others returned home in the sixties and early seventies from overseas only to be spat on by our fellow countrymen. Yet I have no regret for having served. I still get tears in my eyes when I hear those patriotic songs and see public displays of patriotism. I confirms for me there was a reason for what I did. When I read things like some of the posts in this thread calling it cheezy it is like being slapped in the face or spit on again and it makes me furious. Daniel you are to young to know about some of these things having never experienced them but CzarofSGMR is certainly not. If that is truly your opinion you are entitled to it. But at least be considerate enough not to post it in a public forum and cause undue hurt to our Service members who have, do and will continue to fight for your freedom so say such.
Thank You
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RE: PROPHETS QUARTET - 8/23/2008 8:36:58 AM
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Yes, they stood when the lyrics said, "Now it's time for all of us to stand and honor them"
Funny, because that was what I mentioned in particular in my post. Audiences are often alert enough to stand when the song tells them to, but for some reason it bugs me a little.
I guess it's just one of the tricks of the trade. I should get used to it.
Yep. Said that about the lyrics for your benefit. I read your comment. Not ashamed to ask people to stand for such a good reason. Will do it with a song or a verbal request.
I remember when all people instantly stood anytime they heard
GOD BLESS AMERICA or AMERICA THE BEAUTIFUL performed in public. It was obligatory. A sign of disrespect to not do so. Like not standing for the National Anthem...or removing your hat...or placing your hand over your heart.
YEP. I like all that stuff. Not trying to trick anybody. Laying all of my cards on the table.
Sorry you think it's some kind of a TRICK. Evidently, you need to re-read my earlier post. Being patriotic, and supportive of our veterans is NOT a trick with me. Could be for some, I suppose...but it's not for me.
It's anything but a trick. It's genuine love and respect for those who serve us all. The living and the dead.
Really not trying to stir anything here...just have trouble with any sort of suggestion that my expressions of patriotism are some kind of a shallow stage trick or manipulation of an audience, just to make us look good.
I really believe this stuff , that others either think is corny or out of place...or worst yet, may not believe themselves.
BTW: The Prophets have a veteran in our group.
Mike Allen was a US Marine. God bless him!
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RE: PROPHETS QUARTET - 8/23/2008 8:48:22 AM
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Paul and Sam,
I think you two would love Silver Dollar City. You NEVER need to ask people to stand when patriotic songs ring through the park. There is always standing, clapping and cheering for our country and our very deserving service people all over the world. I am proud of America and I have the deepest respect for all serving and the families left behind.
Are we just not humble enough? God requires it of us and that is good enough for me.
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RE: PROPHETS QUARTET - 8/23/2008 8:56:08 AM
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Yes, they stood when the lyrics said, "Now it's time for all of us to stand and honor them"
Funny, because that was what I mentioned in particular in my post. Audiences are often alert enough to stand when the song tells them to, but for some reason it bugs me a little.
I guess it's just one of the tricks of the trade. I should get used to it.
Daniel, everyone is free to express their opinion but for you to say "tricks of the trade" when someone is being patriotic is not right. I stand everytime I hear "God Bless The USA". And I stand other times when it is appropriate to do so and do not mind at all. It is our patriotic duty to do so. I do love the USA and also for someone to say it is "cheesy" to do the Pledge, not sure where their patriotism is at either.
As we all say, just my humble opinion.
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RE: PROPHETS QUARTET - 8/23/2008 8:59:36 AM
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My uncle was there that night and he is an Army veteran. It brought tears to my eyes to see him proudly standing with his hand held over his heart during that patriotic moment.
It was also nice to stand due to the fact that we had been sitting for several hours.
Bchesney...thanks for telling that story about your Uncle. We had dozens of the fans tell us how much they appreciated the "moment"
Men like your Uncle are the reason we sing our song. It's a great blessing to me to know that you both were touched. I wish everyone could read my mail from soldiers who are being blessed by our patriotic song for them.
ALERT: Bchesney has a great blog...really great. It's called KNOXVILLE GOSPEL. He has posted some great articles and pictures that give a fine overview of the Fri-Sat concerts at GOGR. The Blog's URL is:
www.knoxgospel.blogspot.com
The first time I played BECAUSE THEY GAVE for our producer, Johnny Minick, he said, "that's a soldier's song"...I had not thought of it in those terms. He was right. Soldiers not only like our tune. They appreciate it. They often simply say to me, THANKS FOR NOT FORGETTING US or THANKS FOR PUTTING THAT SONG ON YOUR Cd. Our recording is being played on military bases in Iraq. That's the kind of feedback we get from soldiers there. God bless them all.
Qtman...WOW! You Go Bro! I am proud of you and thankful for your service to our Nation.
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RE: PROPHETS QUARTET - 8/23/2008 9:01:41 AM
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Thank you for your post Judy.
I would have loved to see people standing and showing patritism when I returned from overseas. Instead I was met by protestors carrying signs and calling us names, spitting on or at us etc. This is a subject close to my heart and I tend to get angry about it. I have to watch myself very closely to avoid getting banned for the forums when something like this shows up.
Peole should not have to be asked to stand. It should be a reflex action. I have been in secular concerts that was full of people drinking and see them all on their feet when someone sang God Bless The USA. How more fitting could it possibly be for Christians, who believe the very principles this country was founded on, to get on their feet.
I have been known to tell people at ball games, etc, to remove their hat and stop their partying when the National Anthem was played. But I guess I may have out lived my time.
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RE: PROPHETS QUARTET - 8/23/2008 9:07:06 AM
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Paul and Sam,
I think you two would love Silver Dollar City. You NEVER need to ask people to stand when patriotic songs ring through the park. There is always standing, clapping and cheering for our country and our very deserving service people all over the world. I am proud of America and I have the deepest respect for all serving and the families left behind.
Are we just not humble enough? God requires it of us and that is good enough for me.
Whoa Nelly!
sosing2me, I love SDC and all of Branson. Kathy and go several times per year. Even take groups from our church. I love to take our youth so they can see the proud displays of love for country that Branson is famous for demonstrating openly.
You are so right! Gotta get Sam up there...PJ
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RE: PROPHETS QUARTET - 8/23/2008 9:54:47 AM
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Daniel, everyone is free to express their opinion but for you to say "tricks of the trade" when someone is being patriotic is not right. I stand everytime I hear "God Bless The USA". And I stand other times when it is appropriate to do so and do not mind at all. It is our patriotic duty to do so. I do love the USA and also for someone to say it is "cheesy" to do the Pledge, not sure where their patriotism is at either.
As we all say, just my humble opinion.
No, I was saying "tricks of the trade" about telling the audience to stand (lyrically) to get them to do so.
That's just my humble opinion.
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RE: PROPHETS QUARTET - 8/23/2008 9:59:36 AM
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I have been sitting here doing a slow burn over what appears to be a couple of unpatriotic posts. I have also for my on benefit been off line. But I have been thinking. Down through history this great country has been protected and preserved for the many by the few patriots. Every time that patriotism has declined we have paid the consequences. Thinks about it. December 7 1941. The Japenese brutally and without provocation attacked our country. Then and only then was there a rally cry and a gathering around the flag. That same patriotism got us through WWII then Korea happened. The patriotism was still strong but beginning to decline. By the time Vietnam came around it was at a all time low. We paid the consequences with nearly 60,000 American lives.
Then over the next 2 decades, much to my surprise, patriotism went even lower. What happened then? 9-11. Terrorist were so confident we didn't care anymore they took down some of the largest building in NYC, attacked the Pentagon and save for the brave acts of a few Patriots, would have took out the Capitol of this nation.
Wake up people. How many times are we to suffer before we learn our lesson.
Now to keep this on topic, Paul Jackson you and the Prophets keep singing your song, Keep saying the Pledge, and Keep waving the Flag. And God Bless you for it.
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RE: PROPHETS QUARTET - 8/23/2008 10:10:15 AM
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As I said earlier Daniel you are to young to have any first hand knowledge. IBTDTGT. I stand up for the Cross and I stand up for the Flag and both for the same reason. The Blood that was spilled on both.
Now I had better leave this alone.
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RE: PROPHETS QUARTET - 8/23/2008 10:37:38 AM
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I have been sitting here doing a slow burn over what appears to be a couple of unpatriotic posts. I have also for my on benefit been off line. But I have been thinking. Down through history this great country has been protected and preserved for the many by the few patriots. Every time that patriotism has declined we have paid the consequences. Thinks about it. December 7 1941. The Japenese brutally and without provocation attacked our country. Then and only then was there a rally cry and a gathering around the flag. That same patriotism got us through WWII then Korea happened. The patriotism was still strong but beginning to decline. By the time Vietnam came around it was at a all time low. We paid the consequences with nearly 60,000 American lives.
Then over the next 2 decades, much to my surprise, patriotism went even lower. What happened then? 9-11. Terrorist were so confident we didn't care anymore they took down some of the largest building in NYC, attacked the Pentagon and save for the brave acts of a few Patriots, would have took out the Capitol of this nation.
Wake up people. How many times are we to suffer before we learn our lesson.
Now to keep this on topic, Paul Jackson you and the Prophets keep singing your song, Keep saying the Pledge, and Keep waving the Flag. And God Bless you for it.
Amen to that statement! Keep on keepin on Prophets!!!
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RE: PROPHETS QUARTET - 8/23/2008 12:16:10 PM
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ORIGINAL: danielmount
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ORIGINAL: pauljackson
Yes, they stood when the lyrics said, "Now it's time for all of us to stand and honor them"
Funny, because that was what I mentioned in particular in my post. Audiences are often alert enough to stand when the song tells them to, but for some reason it bugs me a little.
I guess it's just one of the tricks of the trade. I should get used to it.
Daniel, it sounds to me that you maybe don't stand for these songs or if you do it is because everyone is standing. You stand not because of the song but because you don;t want people to see you are the only one not standing. That is the way your post comes across to me, so I am in agreement with Sam and Judy about your post and someone else's post not sounding too patriotic. Just my humble opinion, of course. You asked in a post so I am just respnding to what you asked.
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