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raspberry331 -> Foot Pain (2/18/2008 8:14:40 PM)

Is it possible to bruise your sole of your foot and not know it or see it? I've been having some pain on the sole of my foot towards the heel. I'm on my feet all day and I thought maybe my feet were just tired and weary,but the pain has been persistent now for a couple of weeks. I don't seen any bruises and I can't even think of how I might of bruised it. I thought maybe it was my shoes,so I got insoles. They feel fine in the start of the day,then the pain starts. I think maybe I should see a doctor. What do you think? Is there something else I could be doing? I tried soaking them in Epson salt as well.



manda59 -> RE: Foot Pain (2/18/2008 8:21:00 PM)

Could be plantar fasciitis. Or tendonitis.

Does it hurt especially when you first get up after sitting for a while?



raspberry331 -> RE: Foot Pain (2/18/2008 8:28:58 PM)

It hurts after sitting awhile. It's only on one foot. I get up in the morning and it hurts a little. I put my shoes on and I'm fine. I get to work and walk around for a little bit and then I sit and then I get up again it starts throbbing.



manda59 -> RE: Foot Pain (2/18/2008 8:32:18 PM)

Have a look at Wiki on Plantar Fasciitis (link)

(it is what it sounds like to me)


(I have this btw)



raspberry331 -> RE: Foot Pain (2/18/2008 8:39:10 PM)

Hmmm....might be. I have never heard of this before. So,I shouldn't see a doctor,but find more supportive shoes and rest my foot when I can and try to ice it at night? What do you do for yours,Manda?



manda59 -> RE: Foot Pain (2/18/2008 8:44:58 PM)

I didn't say you shouldn't see a doctor! I think you should, in order to make sure of the diagnosis.

I guess it's easy for me to say, as I live in the UK and we can see our doctors etc for free, but I'd honestly say yes you should see one.

I have found that stretching exercises (which I learned at the Foot Clinic), to gently stretch the Achilles heel, have helped the most.

What kind of shoes do you wear mostly?



raspberry331 -> RE: Foot Pain (2/18/2008 8:57:23 PM)

I wear my Reebok's the most,they are most comfortable to me. I'm looking into buying Easy Spirit's or Rockport's. They are supposed to be comfortable shoes. I was wearing nurse shoes in between wearing my Reebok's.



buckifn -> RE: Foot Pain (2/18/2008 10:42:59 PM)

Yes, you should see a dr. It could be bone spurs or something else that only an X-ray can reveal. Further damage could be done if you just ignore it too. It's better to be on the safe side.



manda59 -> RE: Foot Pain (2/19/2008 4:20:20 AM)

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ORIGINAL: raspberry331
I wear my Reebok's the most,they are most comfortable to me. I'm looking into buying Easy Spirit's or Rockport's. They are supposed to be comfortable shoes. I was wearing nurse shoes in between wearing my Reebok's.



The Reeboks are good if they have good support especially to the arch.

What are nurse shoes? Please tell me they're not THESE (link) - they are terrible for your feet.



GrahamCracker -> RE: Foot Pain (2/19/2008 6:49:36 AM)

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ORIGINAL: raspberry331

Hmmm....might be. I have never heard of this before. So,I shouldn't see a doctor,but find more supportive shoes and rest my foot when I can and try to ice it at night? What do you do for yours,Manda?


Raspberry,

Let me describe what believe happens. I had it once. I assume that you are over 40. Typically, that's when plantar fascitis occurs.

There are tendons running along the bottom of the feet. I am not clear on the difference between the plantar fascia and tendons, but bear with me. As we get older they weaken and stretch. In my case the more painful foot actually lengthened as the foot spread.

The weaker tissue is toward the rear of the foot near the heal and you feel the pain there more acutely because (as I understand it) there is some tearing of the tissue. Some people get orthopedic shoes and other people have surgery. I am no doctor but I don't believe surgery is necessary or advisable.

Remedy: In my case, I got better shoes. My feet are narrow and my arches are high. So with each movement of my feet inside cheap shoes, the weight of my body pressed down n my arches. I got New Balance Walking Shoes. Other people recommend different shoes. But they need to be well constructed.

They hurt after sitting or sleeping because the muscles and tendons cramp up after the injury. When people have back pain due to pulled muscles, it usually hurts more after resting.



raspberry331 -> RE: Foot Pain (2/19/2008 9:48:28 AM)

I'm only 32, going on 33 in April. Could I still have it?



raspberry331 -> RE: Foot Pain (2/19/2008 9:50:05 AM)

No,Manda,my nurse shoes don't look like that. They are just plain white shoes that nurses wear while in the hospital. They are supposed to be good for walking alot.



manda59 -> RE: Foot Pain (2/19/2008 9:54:24 AM)

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ORIGINAL: raspberry331
I'm only 32, going on 33 in April. Could I still have it?


Yes.

You say you are on your feet all day - this could contribute to it. Do you go running at all?

In THIS LINK, if you scroll down, there are some exercises you can do that will help. They won't do you any harm even if you don't have PF.

I'd still recommend that you see the doctor though, just to be sure what it is.



The_Omega_Syndrome -> RE: Foot Pain (2/19/2008 10:14:22 AM)

If you bruised the sole of your foot, you wouldn't be able to see it. That's the one place that doesn't show visible bruises.



GrahamCracker -> RE: Foot Pain (2/19/2008 6:04:50 PM)

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ORIGINAL: manda59

quote:

ORIGINAL: raspberry331
I'm only 32, going on 33 in April. Could I still have it?


Yes.

You say you are on your feet all day - this could contribute to it. Do you go running at all?

In THIS LINK, if you scroll down, there are some exercises you can do that will help. They won't do you any harm even if you don't have PF.

I'd still recommend that you see the doctor though, just to be sure what it is.


What Manda said!!!

Manda is right. It is probably coming on now because of other factors. If you are on your feet a lot, that is a mitigating factor.

Touchy subject: Are you overweight?

I was able to get by without doing many of the recommended exercises because I am not on my feet a lot. When I had my first attack, I was doing a lot of yard work for other people--in work shoes that had a poor fit and poor arch support. If other people say the exercises worked for them, go with their recommendations and not with mine.

Some people have told me SAS shoes (stands for San Antonio Shoes I heard) are supposed to be good. I have had no experience with them. A good fit with good shoes is critical, IMHO.

BTW, I did not particularly care for my podiatrist. He diagnosed my condition and recommended some good shoes. But when I met him in a neighborhood store and described what I thought was happening, he said I was wrong. However, The Reader's Digest wrote an article on the subject and described it pretty much as I did. So find a good podiatrist.

If you do all the right things in exactly the right way, it still might be a couple of months before you see full relief. Maybe longer.



manda59 -> RE: Foot Pain (2/19/2008 7:32:55 PM)

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ORIGINAL: GrahamCracker
What Manda said!!!

Manda is right.




Ohh!! It would be soooo tempting to have that quote as my sig! [:D]


Dare me? [8D]



GrahamCracker -> RE: Foot Pain (2/20/2008 6:28:29 AM)

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ORIGINAL: manda59

quote:

ORIGINAL: GrahamCracker
What Manda said!!!

Manda is right.




Ohh!! It would be soooo tempting to have that quote as my sig! [:D]


Dare me? [8D]


Only in context. It's just that in the Health and Fitness folder you say so many good things that I sometimes wish I had said them myself. Frankly, we are going to help people more if we pool common experiences that are valid.



sisrev -> RE: Foot Pain (2/21/2008 5:17:43 PM)

I had this a while back--supportive shoes and stretching exercises help, along with an OTC anti-inflamatory. Also--wear shoes at all times--no going barefoot, even inside the house.

You know the old saying---Time heals all wounds, and wounds all heels!



Abschlusszahlung -> RE: Foot Pain (2/29/2008 1:36:47 AM)

Hello!
I'm new to this site. First time in a chat forum thing (hope I'm pressing all the right buttons!).
Plantar Fasciitis is a very common cause of heel pain. These are microscopic tears that occur in the Achilles tendon. If not treated can become inflamed and pain can spread up the back of the leg and (because of connecting fibers) along the sole of the foot.

Causes are most commonly due to over-use, over-pronation (giving the foot the appearence of being flattened), and of course trauma.

Treatment: if inflammation and swelling are present, rest as much as possible, elevating foot, applying ice to the area for no more than 20 minutes at a time, take anti-inflamatories. Stretches are good, but be careful; you don't want to make it worse. Once immediate symptoms have been dealt with, the next thing I would advise is physio-therapy to strengthen tendons.

For future prevention, footwear is key. For arch support you want a shoe with a firm heel. Make sure there is plenty of toe space. If you are on your feet a lot with your job/lifestyle, the best shoe that I have found are called MBT (Massai Barefoot Technology). They're a bit pricey, but mine were worth every penny. They place the skeleton in perfect alignment; so its not just your feet that benefit, but also your knees and back (its all connected). They are manufactured in Switzerland, but there are shops here and there that sell them. You can find out where they are via the MBT website, if you're interested.

Hope this was helpful!



GrahamCracker -> RE: Foot Pain (2/29/2008 10:46:52 AM)

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For future prevention, footwear is key. For arch support you want a shoe with a firm heel. Make sure there is plenty of toe space. If you are on your feet a lot with your job/lifestyle, the best shoe that I have found are called MBT (Massai Barefoot Technology). They're a bit pricey, but mine were worth every...


That's funny, my podiatrist recommended a shoe size that confined the toe. But I didn't like that podiatrist anyway.



Abschlusszahlung -> RE: Foot Pain (2/29/2008 12:31:16 PM)

Where I was trained we were told to recommend wide-toed shoes for people with foot pain, particularly for elderly patients; as you pointed out before, as the body ages, the foot tends to splay out more. A wider toe space can accomodate this change and reduce repeated trauma that occurs in every day gait. By "trauma" I mean friction that causes corns, calluses, thickened nails etc. to develope. The human foot was designed to walk without shoes, on soft uneven surfaces; which is the exact opposite of what we do. Its all these hard, flat surfaces and ultra-funky footwear that we subject our feet to on a daily basis that end up causing all the problems...and keep podiatrists in business!
As for your podiatrist, she could possibly have recommended the tighter toe for a specific reason. I



Him4all -> RE: Foot Pain (2/29/2008 4:59:40 PM)

Some right and wrong info going on here.

There are three arches in the foot. The longitudinal, transverse and ? I don't remember the third.

The transverse arch (big toe to little toe) causes the foot to spred apart with the collapse of that arch and causes the need for wider shoes.

The longitudinal arch (toe to heel) of the foot is made up by similar fascia. Fascia is white fibrous connective tissue which is neither tendon or ligament, technically. It does all come together though, and form a tendon though, at the anterior aspect of the calcaneous/heel bone. When you get older/fatter/injured and your longitudinal arch collapses and your foot gets longer from stretching the plantar fascia from the toes to the tendonous anchor to the heel. This may cause pain in the arch of the foot itself, but most generally what you feel is the pain where the tendon attaches to the front of the heel bone. With time this irritation can actually cause a calcium build up and heel spurs. A lenghtening of this longitudinal arch is also why longer shoes needed, especially later in life.

There is nothing going on with the achiles tendon in plantar fascitis. But the calf muscle, and the achiles tendon attachment, can be hypertonic/tight which will cause the heel bone to rock foreward and cause a 'tethering' of the plantar fascia on the sole/bottom of the foot. That's why stretching the calf muscle can help plantar fascitis. Wearing shoes all the time keeps an arch in the foot (if there is a good one in the shoe). That prevents repetitive pounding stretch on already inflamed soft tissue.

The best exercise for tight calves and plantar fascitis, is to stand on a stair on your toetips and then lower yourself down. As you hit a point of pain when going down...stop until the pain subsides. Then drop down farther, until pain stops you again. Continue until you reach full foot flexion.

A chiropractor that also does soft tissue work can also adjust the calcaneous and do myofascial work on the plantar fascia with wonderful results typically. My brother in law happens to live in Dallas, Larry. [:D]

DR



raspberry331 -> RE: Foot Pain (2/29/2008 7:50:20 PM)

Thank-you guys for all the wonderful information. Thankfully,my foot is better. I have been stretching it and appyling ice to it at night. I'm not sure if the ice really works,but it numbs it. I also been taking OTC anti-inflamatory. I really think that helps. I've gotten insole for my Reeboks and I am going to go looking for a really comfortable pair of shoes. Easy Spirits,Rockfords,New Balance,and as mentioned above Massai Barefoot Technology are some of my choices.



Him4all -> RE: Foot Pain (3/2/2008 5:26:45 PM)

Rasberry311,

NSAIDs (non steroidal anti inflamatory drugs) such as aspirin, ibuprofen, naproxen will indeed reduce inflammation and reduce pain. But they also have to be detoxified via binding it with sulfur in the liver. That then uses up your liver's stores of sulfur. You then can't make glucosamine sulfate or chondroitin sulfate which your body uses in the rebuilding process of these type injuries. Biting the bullet or ice is better. But if you really can't take the pain do go sparringly on the NSAIDs.

DR



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