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what christians think about justin bieber? - 6/3/2010 2:12:33 PM   
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well i'm 34 years old. i personally think he is(or will be) the king of pop.If we compare at the same age he is already more successful than the latter Michael Jackson.
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RE: what christians think about justin bieber? - 6/3/2010 3:00:26 PM   
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Um, no. Michael Jackson had enormous talent that was lost behind all the freaky behavior in his latter days. Justin Bieber is a marginally talented performer who will lose his fan base when his voice changes.

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RE: what christians think about justin bieber? - 6/3/2010 3:17:30 PM   
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We can only hope...
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RE: what christians think about justin bieber? - 6/3/2010 4:17:21 PM   
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Um, no. Michael Jackson had enormous talent that was lost behind all the freaky behavior in his latter days. Justin Bieber is a marginally talented performer who will lose his fan base when his voice changes.


Agreed.
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RE: what christians think about justin bieber? - 6/3/2010 4:54:07 PM   
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Um, no. Michael Jackson had enormous talent that was lost behind all the freaky behavior in his latter days. Justin Bieber is a marginally talented performer who will lose his fan base when his voice changes.


ok.you know what i think:michael jackson is not that talent at all.he had quincy jones and a bunch songwritters,choreographers,screenwritters,dancers who helped
him achieve what he achieved.

Michael Jackson didn't give enough credit from what he learned from others.MJ didn't invent anything.he took all the dance moves from less famous people .All the dance moves already existed.

like Elvis Presley,MJ was just a manufactured singer both had songwritters.MJ hadn't done nothing of original.
unlike justin bieber can play piano,drums,guitar.
JB has more views in his youtube videos than MJ.
Actually JB does a lit a bit dance of moonwalk better than MJ.
Justin Bieber is better than MJ.

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RE: what christians think about justin bieber? - 6/3/2010 8:58:31 PM   
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As far as what I think of Justin Bieber. I don't.

As far as Michael Jackson, I would suggest doing a little deeper research (like listening to some early Jackson 5) before suggesting he was untalented. Youtube a few of the J5's Ed Sullivan performances for a start. To say he was manufactured is way off base. Yes, he and his brothers were quite controlled by outside forces when they were young, but they were successful because they had true talent. Barry Gordy and the team at Motown could not have have done what they did with the J5 with just anyone. They were good and (mainly because daddy Joe was so awful) very professional.
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RE: what christians think about justin bieber? - 6/4/2010 9:10:34 AM   
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MJ was just a manufactured singer both had songwritters.MJ hadn't done nothing of original.
You really need to do research before you make sweeping statements like this. He co-wrote "We Are the World" with Lionel Richie, wrote most of the songs on Thriller (the biggest selling album ever), invented the moonwalk. Just a few highlights. Oh, and at 12 he could do James Brown better than James Brown.

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RE: what christians think about justin bieber? - 6/4/2010 9:34:34 AM   
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Um, no. Michael Jackson had enormous talent that was lost behind all the freaky behavior in his latter days. Justin Bieber is a marginally talented performer who will lose his fan base when his voice changes.

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We can only hope...

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RE: what christians think about justin bieber? - 6/4/2010 11:22:27 AM   
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MJ was just a manufactured singer both had songwritters.MJ hadn't done nothing of original.
You really need to do research before you make sweeping statements like this. He co-wrote "We Are the World" with Lionel Richie, wrote most of the songs on Thriller (the biggest selling album ever), invented the moonwalk. Just a few highlights. Oh, and at 12 he could do James Brown better than James Brown.


this is pure lie MJ didn't invented anything.He copied the WE are the World concept from Band-Aid a charity supergroup featuring British and Irish musicians and recording artists.the thriller album was written by Quincy Jones. MJ can't dance he learnt dancing from others people .ex the moonwalk ,well it has since been confirmed that Jackson learned the dance from a variation of dancers including Soul Train’s and Shalamar member Jeffrey Daniels, Michael “Boogaloo” Shrimp and Poppin’ Pete among other dancers who all originated from the Bay Area of California. The dance actually has roots in black culture going as far back as the 1930s before Michael polished it and made it his own.
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RE: what christians think about justin bieber? - 6/4/2010 12:07:44 PM   
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Saying someone does James Brown better than James Brown is always silly.

No comment on MJ.

What I think of Justin Bieber has nothing to do with being a Christian. It has far more to do with being a 37 year old woman who's listened to more genres then most teens. Because of this I think he's immature and uninteresting.

I'm not saying he can't amount to something interesting some day. I just don't think whatever vast talent is thought to be there is there. And if my 11 year old son thinks he's lame, I'm not inclined to rethink my position anytime soon...even in terms of teen pop.

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RE: what christians think about justin bieber? - 6/4/2010 2:05:06 PM   
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Wow...I never thought I'd see anyone argue that a boy with a mediocre (and very high voice for a 16yo ) who looks like a mod Ken doll is more talented than one of the most successful entertainers in the history of the world. But then, I'm often surprised here.

(For the record, MJ wrote half the songs on Thriller.)
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RE: what christians think about justin bieber? - 6/4/2010 2:12:23 PM   
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Because of this I think he's immature and uninteresting.



please i don't understand you could you explain me a thing?if he is such a lame immature and uninteresting kid.
how Justin Bieber performed for U.S. President Barack Obama and first lady Michelle Obama at the White House?
how is He was invited to be a vocalist for the remake of We Are The World for its 25th anniversary to benefit Haiti after the earthquake?
how he became the first solo artist in Billboard history to have at least four singles enter the Top 40 of the Hot 100 before his debut album's release?
how he was the youngest solo male act to top the chart since Stevie Wonder in 1963?
how he topped back to back the top of billboard since beatles?
how he has girls camping for his concerts and mothers getting tatoos for her daughters in exchange for attending his concerts?

Or you are wrong he such an lame immature and uninteresting kid or america is full of dumb people including your president for inviting him at white house.

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RE: what christians think about justin bieber? - 6/4/2010 2:48:45 PM   
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america is full of dumb people including your president for inviting him at white house.
There's yer answer.
Performing at the White House doesn't make you talented.
Truthfully, I couldn't name one person on that remake of We Are the World. And the fact that they remade it rather than come up with an original tune should tell you something about the depth of talent involved in that project.
I don't have the facts at hand, but I believe either Mariah Carey or Whitney Houston (or both) had more Billboard "hits" from their debut. I know for a fact that the Beatles did.
Girls camping out and mothers getting tatoos are a real measure of talent. That's almost as impressive as girls throwing their underwear at Frank Zappa (look him up).
Again, being popular does not make you talented. All it means is you have somebody who's good at marketing behind you. In Bieber's case that someone is called "Disney".

ETA: None of my remarks are made because I'm a Christian. They come from the fact that I'm a fan of music. If I were Druid I would still feel the same.


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RE: what christians think about justin bieber? - 6/4/2010 3:06:46 PM   
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Pretty much what I was going to say. And while I'm sure it's an honor to perform at the White House, typically the entertainers that perform there are whoever is popular during that president's term. It really isn't an indication of anything. (Although in this case, I'm sure the president's daughters were thrilled. )
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RE: what christians think about justin bieber? - 6/4/2010 3:55:24 PM   
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(Although in this case, I'm sure the president's daughters were thrilled.)


My thoughts exactly. LOL!!

What do I think about Justin Bieber? Well, I think he's a talented young man who is in the process of being exploited and ruined. I pray he survives his fame.

I've seen one performance of his. That was on American Idol a couple of weeks ago. Unlike many pros who have performed on AI, Bieber sang on pitch and wasn't obscene. Apparently in today's music scene one can't ask for much more than that.

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RE: what christians think about justin bieber? - 6/4/2010 6:00:02 PM   
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What do I think of Justin Bieber...YouTube viral celebrity who looks exactly like my neighbor...
Baby, baby, baby, Oooohhh! Baby, baby, baby, Noooooo! <retch>
...He is the latest thing the pre-pubescence set, their mothers (Isn't he cute!) and marketers are all a-swirl over.

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RE: what christians think about justin bieber? - 6/4/2010 6:04:46 PM   
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haha

oh man

This board is really bringing the laughs lately.

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ORIGINAL: graceofG0d
how Justin Bieber performed for U.S. President Barack Obama and first lady Michelle Obama at the White House?


Tons of artists play there. It means nothing in terms of credibility.

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how is He was invited to be a vocalist for the remake of We Are The World for its 25th anniversary to benefit Haiti after the earthquake?


What are you kidding me with this? That track was chock full of bores.

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how he became the first solo artist in Billboard history to have at least four singles enter the Top 40 of the Hot 100 before his debut album's release?


I don't know, because of all the screaming girls who fall for his lesbian hairdo and that stupid 2-fingered salute he flashes every chance he gets?

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how he was the youngest solo male act to top the chart since Stevie Wonder in 1963?


Being young and topping the chart is usually a career death knell.

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ORIGINAL: graceofG0d
how he topped back to back the top of billboard since beatles?


Yeah, he's the "it" kid. We get it.

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how he has girls camping for his concerts and mothers getting tatoos for her daughters in exchange for attending his concerts?


*edited by author*

I give it another 4 years before everyone has moved on.

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RE: what christians think about justin bieber? - 6/5/2010 7:28:49 AM   
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I thought he was 'alright' when I saw him open for Taylor Swift in London. I even like some of his songs (That Should Be Me is a good one I think). But it's the messianic worship screaming little girls give him that annoys me. I've seen these kids go from loving some really good music to abandoning it all to "follow Bieber" - and I guess you guys have heard about the death threats one of the Kardashian's got for saying something along the lines of "he's hot/he's mine"?
There's all that and then he seems to be nothing more than a puppet, a 15/16 year old singing about things he obviously knows nothing about, trying to act all grown up. The way he tries to be like older rappers is really embarrassing as well.

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RE: what christians think about justin bieber? - 6/5/2010 9:14:34 AM   
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I thought he was 'alright' when I saw him open for Taylor Swift in London. I even like some of his songs (That Should Be Me is a good one I think). But it's the messianic worship screaming little girls give him that annoys me. I've seen these kids go from loving some really good music to abandoning it all to "follow Bieber" - and I guess you guys have heard about the death threats one of the Kardashian's got for saying something along the lines of "he's hot/he's mine"?
There's all that and then he seems to be nothing more than a puppet, a 15/16 year old singing about things he obviously knows nothing about, trying to act all grown up. The way he tries to be like older rappers is really embarrassing as well.


exactly.even though i admire him as a gifted talented singer.i also hate the fact that he is trying to be like old rappers but so was Elvis presley in his time.
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RE: what christians think about justin bieber? - 6/5/2010 1:43:14 PM   
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ORIGINAL: graceofG0d

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MJ was just a manufactured singer both had songwritters.MJ hadn't done nothing of original.
You really need to do research before you make sweeping statements like this. He co-wrote "We Are the World" with Lionel Richie, wrote most of the songs on Thriller (the biggest selling album ever), invented the moonwalk. Just a few highlights. Oh, and at 12 he could do James Brown better than James Brown.


this is pure lie MJ didn't invented anything.He copied the WE are the World concept from Band-Aid a charity supergroup featuring British and Irish musicians and recording artists.the thriller album was written by Quincy Jones. MJ can't dance he learnt dancing from others people .ex the moonwalk ,well it has since been confirmed that Jackson learned the dance from a variation of dancers including Soul Train’s and Shalamar member Jeffrey Daniels, Michael “Boogaloo” Shrimp and Poppin’ Pete among other dancers who all originated from the Bay Area of California. The dance actually has roots in black culture going as far back as the 1930s before Michael polished it and made it his own.

FYI every artist copies a concept from other artists including christian artists.Including your boy Justin Bieber.Sure the whole allstar band may have been started by Band Aid;but so what?"We are the World" was an original song written by MJ that sounds nothing like Band Aids song concept or no concept.

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RE: what christians think about justin bieber? - 6/5/2010 2:26:51 PM   
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FYI every artist copies a concept from other artists including christian artists.Including your boy Justin Bieber.Sure the whole allstar band may have been started by Band Aid;but so what?"We are the World" was an original song written by MJ that sounds nothing like Band Aids song concept or no concept.


no. the original we are the world was written by Lionel Ritchie co-produced by Quincy Jones and Michael Omartian.
i like MJ is a good singer but there one thing i dislike about him or his fans is he didnt gave enough credit for the authors of the songs and moves he learned from others.this for me equates to thievery.
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RE: what christians think about justin bieber? - 6/5/2010 3:25:34 PM   
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It was written by Lionel Richie and Michael Jackson, and co-produced by Quincy Jones and Michael Omartian.

Of the 21 songs Justin Bieber has recorded, he only wrote one alone, 15 were written by him and teams of people, and five he had no part in writing.
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RE: what christians think about justin bieber? - 6/5/2010 3:59:38 PM   
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I don't know why anyone would bother citing "We Are the World" as evidence of Mike's superiority over Bieber. If I had a choice, I would live the rest of my life without ever hearing that song again. Michael's complete ownership of Bieber manifests itself in "Billie Jean" alone, which MJ wrote.
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RE: what christians think about justin bieber? - 6/5/2010 4:34:55 PM   
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I honestly don't know why we're comparing him to Michael Jackson, or any other adult entertainer, at all.

Regardless, he has to hit puberty sometime and he'll go through the same transformation as every other pre-teen/teen star. Maybe he'll survive it; maybe not. Only time will tell how little Justin will fare.
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RE: what christians think about justin bieber? - 6/6/2010 2:45:54 AM   
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Bieber?

I think she could go a long way

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